Well, the humidity level is still up there. But, it is cloudy, and therefore, cooler. All weekend long, Lar kept saying that his catheter hurt and this am when he got to dialysis, they said that it was pink around it, so they drew cultures to see if it is an infection. He also feels like crap, but I think that it is because he went in heavy and then they try to pull that extra weight off. So, he ate his after dialysis snack, had a protein drink, his pills, his shot and read his paper all on his bed while reclining. If he still fells so crappy at 2:00 when I get him up to feed him a light lunch, I will just have him sit on the side of the bed and then lay right back down.
Travis came home on Friday and Katie had a small party/bonfire on Saturday night for him. We were sitting and talking and passing around the bug spray. The spray had little effect in deterring the mosquitoes from biting, in fact, I think that it was attracting them Trav said that it is interesting living down south, but you have to be careful of using some terms. Like "Coon". Travis was talking about going coon hunting to some of his friends one night and they all were looking at him aghast- "Travis, do you know that coon is a racial slur down here?"
"Uhhhh...no. I didn't. So I guess the guys went hunting raccoons?" I love Travis! He has always been a great guy!
We left at 9:00 and had a nice drive home, watched a little T.V. and then tried to sleep in the incinerator upstairs! It has not been below 80 degrees up there in about a week, but, I just crank the fans on and do the best that I can. The humidity is supposed to end by tomorrow, so there is an end in sight!
Monday, July 21, 2008
Friday, July 18, 2008
A Day to Hide Inside
I am really not complaining. Heat and humidity is part of summer and we have been very lucky that the weather thus far has been so pleasant. And any day that it is not snowing, is a good day!
If it was just me that I had to think about, it would be one thing. I flip on a few fans and move a little slower- try to avoid going upstairs (THAT is just an inferno up there!)But, Larry, because his one lung is compromised with the fluid that is always in it, has a difficult time breathing when it is this humid. And, since breathing is kind of important....His energy level also goes right down the poop shoot. I would imagine it is because his body can not oxygenate enough. I know that my own energy level is way lower in the heat and humidity.
Yesterday, I cancelled an afternoon appointment because I just didn't feel comfortable taking him out in this. What is the point? You can always reschedule and that is what I did!
If it was just me that I had to think about, it would be one thing. I flip on a few fans and move a little slower- try to avoid going upstairs (THAT is just an inferno up there!)But, Larry, because his one lung is compromised with the fluid that is always in it, has a difficult time breathing when it is this humid. And, since breathing is kind of important....His energy level also goes right down the poop shoot. I would imagine it is because his body can not oxygenate enough. I know that my own energy level is way lower in the heat and humidity.
Yesterday, I cancelled an afternoon appointment because I just didn't feel comfortable taking him out in this. What is the point? You can always reschedule and that is what I did!
Wednesday, July 16, 2008
I'm Melting!!!!!
The other thing is- what about the mosquitoes? I have never seen them this nasty! They are everywhere! And mosquito spray does not even slow them down! Maybe they are a super species- stronger- more vicious- able to withstand any poison thrown at them! And soon they will take over the world!!!!
The picture at the top is of a calla lily growing in my garden. 2 of them came up orange this year! Very pretty! I love them and don't mind the extra work every year when I have to pull them out before winter. The best part is, I started with 4 little tubers that I got at a rummage sale about 4 years ago and now have about 16. All for $1.00. Not too bad!
Heard from John today about the PD. He had me schedule a consult with Dr. Brodish (Who has done Larry's surgery in the past) and so, we have the ball rolling.
The girls at dialysis today were talking about PD and how I need a sterile room. They suggested that perhaps I will have to make one room cat free..... They obviously don't have cats. Because what is a cat going to do if you try to keep them out of a room? They are going to think-"Hmmm.... she must have something great in there. I must find out!" and then they dash at the door when you least expect it. Causing you to loose your balance because as you try to stop them. They run nimbly by as you crash to the ground, spilling whatever you were carrying, breaking 3 finger nails and darn lucky you broke nothing else. There is no way you can catch the darn thing unless you have 3 other people in each corner. So...no. No cat free room. A room with less cat presence, especially when we are connecting is doable. We will figure it out I am sure.
Right now, Max is laying almost on top of my key board, helping me type and relaxing. Got to love him!
Tuesday, July 15, 2008
We have lettuce!
Well, the garden is doing great! And the lettuce is ready to pick. I have been using it for about a week and probably will have a bout 10 more days of lettuce harvesting after today. I love fresh lettuce and stand at the sink and eat it as I rinse it! Who needs salad dressing?
We are supposed to have the hottest day of the summer today. I had the doors open until about 1 hour ago, and now have everything shut down, the air in the breakfast room on and the fans all blowing. We also have the upstairs door open and fans going up there, so it creates a wind tunnel like effect and sucks that hot air up and out. It works really well for short spells...2 or 3 days. I don't know how well it would do in a prolonged heat wave!
We had therapy this am and Larry did great! I think in part because I told him that he can only do 4 more sessions. $1800 worth of therapy- That is all Medicare will pay for at a therapy place that is not a hospital. Now, if I wanted to take him to the hospital, we could continue. And if I think he needs another push, I would certainly do that. But, for now, I will let him get through this round and see how he does after. What ridiculous rules they come up with at medicare for some of this stuff.And the thing that cracks me up is therapy at a clinic, is cheaper than therapy at the hospital- so, why the limits at a clinic instead of at a hospital?
You would think that medicare would be tickled pink to have people going to therapy- especially at 75 years and above. It helps people maintain their stability, balance and core strength, which keeps them from falling down, which is one of the most common reasons that elderly people are admitted to emergency rooms. But nooooo....we don't want to PREVENT people from hurting themselves. We would rather spend thousands and thousands replacing hips and shoulders and paying for intense therapy at a rehab place like Linden Grove.
And then having these people with reduced mobility placed back into their homes, where, because they are weaker and have less mobility, they are more than likely going to fall again! Aaaaannnnnd.... if they started out this whole cycle already physically compromised because, they were not really active before they fell, they are even more likely to get weaker and weaker.
And, the sad part is, they don't know it. Larry still thinks that he is going to wake up some morning and miraculously be back to how he was before all this started 4 years ago. And that is why he feels it is unnecessary to go to therapy. He thinks that somehow-poof! he is going to be just how he was before, and...if he can't be that way, he don't want to work towards anything else. Thanks for asking...NO.
One of the things that I have learned as I have gotten older is that everything changes. Sometimes we like the changes and sometimes we don't. Doesn't matter...change is where it is at and if you don't roll with the flow and figure out how to work with the changes, you are going to be one sad panda, always trying to recapture the past.
I know that I can not do all the things that I could do when I was younger- and would not want to do, anyhow! With age comes a little bit of wisdom and I enjoy working smart instead of working hard all the time. I worked hard and played hard when I was younger. And really enjoyed it. Don't want to do it that way anymore. Thanks.
We are supposed to have the hottest day of the summer today. I had the doors open until about 1 hour ago, and now have everything shut down, the air in the breakfast room on and the fans all blowing. We also have the upstairs door open and fans going up there, so it creates a wind tunnel like effect and sucks that hot air up and out. It works really well for short spells...2 or 3 days. I don't know how well it would do in a prolonged heat wave!
We had therapy this am and Larry did great! I think in part because I told him that he can only do 4 more sessions. $1800 worth of therapy- That is all Medicare will pay for at a therapy place that is not a hospital. Now, if I wanted to take him to the hospital, we could continue. And if I think he needs another push, I would certainly do that. But, for now, I will let him get through this round and see how he does after. What ridiculous rules they come up with at medicare for some of this stuff.And the thing that cracks me up is therapy at a clinic, is cheaper than therapy at the hospital- so, why the limits at a clinic instead of at a hospital?
You would think that medicare would be tickled pink to have people going to therapy- especially at 75 years and above. It helps people maintain their stability, balance and core strength, which keeps them from falling down, which is one of the most common reasons that elderly people are admitted to emergency rooms. But nooooo....we don't want to PREVENT people from hurting themselves. We would rather spend thousands and thousands replacing hips and shoulders and paying for intense therapy at a rehab place like Linden Grove.
And then having these people with reduced mobility placed back into their homes, where, because they are weaker and have less mobility, they are more than likely going to fall again! Aaaaannnnnd.... if they started out this whole cycle already physically compromised because, they were not really active before they fell, they are even more likely to get weaker and weaker.
And, the sad part is, they don't know it. Larry still thinks that he is going to wake up some morning and miraculously be back to how he was before all this started 4 years ago. And that is why he feels it is unnecessary to go to therapy. He thinks that somehow-poof! he is going to be just how he was before, and...if he can't be that way, he don't want to work towards anything else. Thanks for asking...NO.
One of the things that I have learned as I have gotten older is that everything changes. Sometimes we like the changes and sometimes we don't. Doesn't matter...change is where it is at and if you don't roll with the flow and figure out how to work with the changes, you are going to be one sad panda, always trying to recapture the past.
I know that I can not do all the things that I could do when I was younger- and would not want to do, anyhow! With age comes a little bit of wisdom and I enjoy working smart instead of working hard all the time. I worked hard and played hard when I was younger. And really enjoyed it. Don't want to do it that way anymore. Thanks.
Monday, July 14, 2008
P.D. Dialysis
Last week, Linnea, Dr. Korker's assistant pulled me aside and said "You know, we have been having trouble trying to get the weight off of Larry each time because his blood pressure keeps bottoming out and we have to stop. I talked to Beth (the nurse) and we think that Larry would be a good candidate for P.D. dialysis at home."
She then proceeded to tell me a little about it and the pros and cons. The best pro is that it would be way easier on Larry and his blood pressure. The biggest con is you have to do it every night and it would be my ball game.
I figured, "What the heck? Set up an appointment for me to get the spiel and we will decide."
Kelly calls John at Waukesha where we would go as our base (another drawback because it is 25 miles away). We set the appointment. Larry is kind of jazzed because this means he won't have to get up at 5:30 3 times a week and sit in that too small chair for 4 hours each time.
Thursday, we head over towards Waukesha. John had said that it is right next to the hospital in the professional building.
Have you ever driven in Waukesha? Who planned this city? And they do not have hospital signs out on Mooreland Rd., where most people are coming from since it kind of circles around the entire hospital. Anyhow, we finally get there and they have valet parking, so we don't have to park-YAY! We get in there, right at 3:00- exactly on time.
We stand in the lobby of the office that we are told to go to and hear people talking, but no one is around. A few minutes later, a guy comes around the corner. It turns out to be John, the nurse we are meeting. He thought the meeting was at 3:30.
So, he walks us through the procedure- the pros, the cons, he asks questions, he answers questions that I have. It was a very good explanation and after discussing everything, we are going to give her a go.
He has to call Dr. Korker this week to get the go-ahead, then we have to schedule the procedure to have the catheter placed in his stomach. After that is done, we have to drive to Waukesha 2 times a week to have the catheter checked and to train to do the procedure. We'll see how it goes.
On another note, it was Travis Cody Fischer's 23rd birthday yesterday!!! Happy birthday Travis!
He is coming home this week for about 10 days and I am looking forward to seeing him. He does like graduate school and Atlanta is OK, but, there is no place like home!
She then proceeded to tell me a little about it and the pros and cons. The best pro is that it would be way easier on Larry and his blood pressure. The biggest con is you have to do it every night and it would be my ball game.
I figured, "What the heck? Set up an appointment for me to get the spiel and we will decide."
Kelly calls John at Waukesha where we would go as our base (another drawback because it is 25 miles away). We set the appointment. Larry is kind of jazzed because this means he won't have to get up at 5:30 3 times a week and sit in that too small chair for 4 hours each time.
Thursday, we head over towards Waukesha. John had said that it is right next to the hospital in the professional building.
Have you ever driven in Waukesha? Who planned this city? And they do not have hospital signs out on Mooreland Rd., where most people are coming from since it kind of circles around the entire hospital. Anyhow, we finally get there and they have valet parking, so we don't have to park-YAY! We get in there, right at 3:00- exactly on time.
We stand in the lobby of the office that we are told to go to and hear people talking, but no one is around. A few minutes later, a guy comes around the corner. It turns out to be John, the nurse we are meeting. He thought the meeting was at 3:30.
So, he walks us through the procedure- the pros, the cons, he asks questions, he answers questions that I have. It was a very good explanation and after discussing everything, we are going to give her a go.
He has to call Dr. Korker this week to get the go-ahead, then we have to schedule the procedure to have the catheter placed in his stomach. After that is done, we have to drive to Waukesha 2 times a week to have the catheter checked and to train to do the procedure. We'll see how it goes.
On another note, it was Travis Cody Fischer's 23rd birthday yesterday!!! Happy birthday Travis!
He is coming home this week for about 10 days and I am looking forward to seeing him. He does like graduate school and Atlanta is OK, but, there is no place like home!
Friday, July 11, 2008
Cats on the Porch
When Larry and I were watching TV last night, the wind shifted and the breeze coming in was making Larry cold, so I closed the side porch door. As I did it, I thought to myself-"Remember to check to make sure that there are no cats out there before you go to bed."
Well, I went down to the basement to get the last batch of laundry and when I came back up, Larry had switched off the last 5 minutes of Burn Notice. I said-"Larry- I was watching that show" and then he turned the tv off, because he wasn't paying attention to me. So, I yelled- "Larry! I was watching that!"(I think that most of the time he hears like a mosquito noise when I talk to him and he just nods and says ok) Then he was all twitter-pated because"You yelled at me", so I didn't get the wash folded or get to watch the last 5 minutes of Burn Notice, because I had to try to sooth his ruffled feathers.
I got him into bed, then went and folded wash, took Elvis out, shut down the windows and doors and went to bed. At 12:30 I was awakened by a pretty big storm that lasted for a good hour. Wind- rain- thunder- lightening.
At 5:30, when I came downstairs, I remembered- "Crud! I forgot to check the side porch!" I went and opened the door and Max comes rushing out meowing like crazy, probably telling me that he is going to have to have therapy after being trapped out there, in the storm, with Peaches! It took him a couple of hours to calm down. But, I bet that he won't go hide on the porch anymore!
Well, I went down to the basement to get the last batch of laundry and when I came back up, Larry had switched off the last 5 minutes of Burn Notice. I said-"Larry- I was watching that show" and then he turned the tv off, because he wasn't paying attention to me. So, I yelled- "Larry! I was watching that!"(I think that most of the time he hears like a mosquito noise when I talk to him and he just nods and says ok) Then he was all twitter-pated because"You yelled at me", so I didn't get the wash folded or get to watch the last 5 minutes of Burn Notice, because I had to try to sooth his ruffled feathers.
I got him into bed, then went and folded wash, took Elvis out, shut down the windows and doors and went to bed. At 12:30 I was awakened by a pretty big storm that lasted for a good hour. Wind- rain- thunder- lightening.
At 5:30, when I came downstairs, I remembered- "Crud! I forgot to check the side porch!" I went and opened the door and Max comes rushing out meowing like crazy, probably telling me that he is going to have to have therapy after being trapped out there, in the storm, with Peaches! It took him a couple of hours to calm down. But, I bet that he won't go hide on the porch anymore!
Wednesday, July 9, 2008
Wow! It is July 9th already!
Wow! Can you believe that it is into July already? It is amazing how fast time goes!
roads were already blocked for the 4th of July parade! We drove to Pilgrim. Couldn't turn. I suppose that was justified because there were fire engines and trucks backed up all the way to the intersection. So, I flipped around and figured that we would cut down Main Street to 145 and over to Pilgrim. Wrong. And the traffic on Squire was backed up and not going anywhere because some car was trying to turn down Main Street and arguing with the cop. So, finally, we got to turn and go back out to Mequon Rd., over to Maple, to Friestadt and back over toWe had a nice 4th. The weather was perfect. Not real hot- about 78, sunny, with a light breeze. Larry had to go to dialysis and when he got out, the Pilgrim from the other direction. 40 minutes to get home. It is 2 miles from here to dialysis, so, it was quite a ride with an 82 year old man who just wants to get into his bed and sleep!
Later that day, we drove over to the Piggly Wiggly to get corn on the cob for dinner and just drove for a little bit to get Larry out.
We watched the fireworks from the front porch with Julie and her friend Annette. Good fireworks and a great finale, but, we were in bed 20 minutes later! So much for rabble rousers!
Today, is gorgeous! It is cool- about 76 and breezy and no humidity! Which I am so happy about! The past 2 days were terribly humid. It is really nice to just have the doors and windows open and the house is cool.(I can tell that Pewter is not outside. It is quiet!)
I Picked lettuce from the garden today and ate my first radish.
Everything except my tomatoes are doing really well! I don't know what is up with that, but,
I went to Menard's and got some little tomato plants and will set them in different spots to see if I can get any tomatoes at all! I love tomatoes. Maybe they were too wet or the wet and the cold nights is what is doing them in. Sigh...
John and Deb and Mickey are heading back from seeing Biza in California. They were there from July 3rd and had a good time apparently. If I get pics, I will post some.
Larry and I have to go to Waukesha tomorrow to meet John. He is the nurse in charge of PD- home dialysis. He tells us what it is and sees if we would be good candidates for it. I will let you know about what it entails when we get back.
I am reading a book titled-"How Doctors Think". It is excellent! It tells you how doctors think about patients, how they diagnose what is wrong with you(Very interesting) and all sorts of insights into how patients are treated by physicians. I think that when I am done reading, I will start a blog or post about "How to visit a doctor". I tell you, from talking to all my friends and Larry's friends, it amazes me how people go to the doctor. Almost everyone that I talk to, just goes in. They don't really think about what their symptoms are. Most people do not write anything down, and so they go in and forget to ask anything (I learned to do that right away when we were going in with Mom)Almost across the board...people go in and expect the doctor to miraculously figure out what is wrong with them (Usually while the fudge the truth about questions that the doctor asks about habits, exercise, diet, etc. Then, they head out of the office, clutching their miracle prescription in their hot little hand,( which, by the way, most people have no idea what the prescription does or what its side effects are...)and hope like crazy that they are cured.
I am not saying that this is wrong. If that is what you want to do, more power to you. But, most people, complain that they are not miraculously cured after 2 days of taking their miracle pills!
I think that if people went to the doctor and had an idea of what the doctors think about as they listen to you give your spiel, it would help a lot. And what questions you should ask. I am canoodling it in my head. We'll talk.
Hey! When I went outside a few minutes ago, mama wren is out and I could see baby mouths inside the bird house. I don't know how many! But, I am an aunty!
roads were already blocked for the 4th of July parade! We drove to Pilgrim. Couldn't turn. I suppose that was justified because there were fire engines and trucks backed up all the way to the intersection. So, I flipped around and figured that we would cut down Main Street to 145 and over to Pilgrim. Wrong. And the traffic on Squire was backed up and not going anywhere because some car was trying to turn down Main Street and arguing with the cop. So, finally, we got to turn and go back out to Mequon Rd., over to Maple, to Friestadt and back over toWe had a nice 4th. The weather was perfect. Not real hot- about 78, sunny, with a light breeze. Larry had to go to dialysis and when he got out, the Pilgrim from the other direction. 40 minutes to get home. It is 2 miles from here to dialysis, so, it was quite a ride with an 82 year old man who just wants to get into his bed and sleep!
Later that day, we drove over to the Piggly Wiggly to get corn on the cob for dinner and just drove for a little bit to get Larry out.
We watched the fireworks from the front porch with Julie and her friend Annette. Good fireworks and a great finale, but, we were in bed 20 minutes later! So much for rabble rousers!
Today, is gorgeous! It is cool- about 76 and breezy and no humidity! Which I am so happy about! The past 2 days were terribly humid. It is really nice to just have the doors and windows open and the house is cool.(I can tell that Pewter is not outside. It is quiet!)
I Picked lettuce from the garden today and ate my first radish.
John and Deb and Mickey are heading back from seeing Biza in California. They were there from July 3rd and had a good time apparently. If I get pics, I will post some.
Larry and I have to go to Waukesha tomorrow to meet John. He is the nurse in charge of PD- home dialysis. He tells us what it is and sees if we would be good candidates for it. I will let you know about what it entails when we get back.
I am reading a book titled-"How Doctors Think". It is excellent! It tells you how doctors think about patients, how they diagnose what is wrong with you(Very interesting) and all sorts of insights into how patients are treated by physicians. I think that when I am done reading, I will start a blog or post about "How to visit a doctor". I tell you, from talking to all my friends and Larry's friends, it amazes me how people go to the doctor. Almost everyone that I talk to, just goes in. They don't really think about what their symptoms are. Most people do not write anything down, and so they go in and forget to ask anything (I learned to do that right away when we were going in with Mom)Almost across the board...people go in and expect the doctor to miraculously figure out what is wrong with them (Usually while the fudge the truth about questions that the doctor asks about habits, exercise, diet, etc. Then, they head out of the office, clutching their miracle prescription in their hot little hand,( which, by the way, most people have no idea what the prescription does or what its side effects are...)and hope like crazy that they are cured.
I am not saying that this is wrong. If that is what you want to do, more power to you. But, most people, complain that they are not miraculously cured after 2 days of taking their miracle pills!
I think that if people went to the doctor and had an idea of what the doctors think about as they listen to you give your spiel, it would help a lot. And what questions you should ask. I am canoodling it in my head. We'll talk.
Hey! When I went outside a few minutes ago, mama wren is out and I could see baby mouths inside the bird house. I don't know how many! But, I am an aunty!
Tuesday, July 8, 2008
The Wren and Pewter
This next series of photos shows Pewter investigating the wren's house, and now...I will begin the story.
A couple of years ago, I bought a red,white and blue bird house at a rummage sale and I hung it on these ladders that I configured to be a trellis/bird feeder holder. It has never had a resident until about 1 month ago. A pair of wrens decided to make it home, and busily set about
All was well the first couple of weeks. The pair flitted in and out with nary a notice from anyone, especially Pewter. Pewter would lay on the porch and never even noticed the little guys going back and forth. She is not a major hunter anyhow, and birds are not of great interest to her.
So, for the past week or so, I think that just the male has been flying in and out. The female must be sitting on the eggs. The one that is going in and out, has decided that Pewter is a threat. And the thing sits right above her and scolds her whenever she is outside. This has led Pewter to pay attention to it..... And she has figured out where it is.... And decided to investigate. "Hmmm....."says Pewter, "I must check this out!"
And now, several times a day, Pewter jumps up onto the trellis/ladder and shimmies down to the bird house to try to see what is going on.
The wren freaks every time Pewter comes out, and hops around hollering at the cat. This just makes Pewter more interested. The poor little thing does not realize that he is attracting attention instead of diverting it. I can always tell just where she is by where the little bird is hollering from! The good news is Pewter can not reach around to the front of the birdhouse. So, unless the little wren is totally daft and flies right into her, they will be safe. I have also been chasing Pewter off when I see her. I will keep you posted.
This bottom picture is Pewter relaxing on the chair. The wren is probably 4 feet to the right hopping up and down and screeching! You can see Pewter cares.
Wednesday, July 2, 2008
Maybe We Will Have Chicken for Dinner
So, yesterday.... Larry had therapy in the morning and then we came home and Larry napped after lunch for a couple of hours. When I was getting him up, I said to him in conversation-
"Hey, I think that I am going to go to Pick and Save and get one of those cooked chickens that they make and we will have that and some Rice-a-Roni and beans for dinner."
As I say this, he gets that look on his face that little kids do when you are making them eat something they don't like. Sort of like Mr. Poison's face on those poison stickers. I started to laugh-it was so funny to see an 82 year old man get that look on his face. I wish that I had had my camera!
"What's wrong Larry?"
And he mutters under his breath-"I don't want any chicken."
" I wouldn't give you half of the chicken Larry- I would just give you a little with the rice. Wouldn't that be good?"
"I don't WANT chicken."
He was twitter-pated about it for the next half-hour, so...we did not have chicken.
I miss chicken. I love to eat chicken. It is very sad that he does not like it at all any more. I don't know what it is about chicken that makes him nauseous, but, I can tell you that it surely does. Makes him puke. Almost every time. And sometimes, just smelling it, makes him puke. So, I do not get much chicken any more. But, my feeling is,you have to give it a shot once in awhile to see if it is any better. Then, you can give me that look.
"Hey, I think that I am going to go to Pick and Save and get one of those cooked chickens that they make and we will have that and some Rice-a-Roni and beans for dinner."
As I say this, he gets that look on his face that little kids do when you are making them eat something they don't like. Sort of like Mr. Poison's face on those poison stickers. I started to laugh-it was so funny to see an 82 year old man get that look on his face. I wish that I had had my camera!
"What's wrong Larry?"
And he mutters under his breath-"I don't want any chicken."
" I wouldn't give you half of the chicken Larry- I would just give you a little with the rice. Wouldn't that be good?"
"I don't WANT chicken."
He was twitter-pated about it for the next half-hour, so...we did not have chicken.
I miss chicken. I love to eat chicken. It is very sad that he does not like it at all any more. I don't know what it is about chicken that makes him nauseous, but, I can tell you that it surely does. Makes him puke. Almost every time. And sometimes, just smelling it, makes him puke. So, I do not get much chicken any more. But, my feeling is,you have to give it a shot once in awhile to see if it is any better. Then, you can give me that look.
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